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Exe...Great stuff! Keep it coming!<br /><br /> <br />Sandy Crawley<br /><br />Executive Director<br />Professional Writers Association of Canada<br />TorontoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2732335530726828393.post-77973575311866004382011-11-10T14:50:38.365-05:002011-11-10T14:50:38.365-05:00I agree with anonymous; the occupiers are reaching...I agree with anonymous; the occupiers are reaching out to labour and homeless and other marginalised groups and at NO Small risk to themselves as individuals and/or to the movement as a whole! <br /><br />When you "reach out" the RISK is in the increase of possibility of infiltration by undesirables and this is the MAIN danger that occupiers face. <br /><br />Hooligans and neo-fascist thugs with designs on thwarting the 99% abound. Some are just free lance perverted trouble makers but these are a minor problem; the major danger is from those that are organised and financed by an elite scared shitless at the threat posed by occupiers to their priveledged status. <br /><br />As for working with Obama, he is a House Negro who missed his opportunity the first few weeks in office when he sucked up to Auto industry and the bankers such as Goldman Sachs and gave them $Billions in taxpayers money for redundant and swindling operations! And this with 61 Democratic Senators and a huge majority in the House of Representatives led by the able Nancy Pelosi<br /><br />As one who celebrated the collapse of the colour bar that enabled an Afro-American to be sworn in as President and looked forward to real changes, I share the feeling of betrayal of most progressives at his total wimp out. <br /><br />Occupiers are correct when they show distain for such "liberals" who are in many ways worst that the Cons who at least overtly show their true colours rather than putting forth ideas, policies, and actions that contain covert hooks and poisons for the future.david tarbucknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2732335530726828393.post-35672804243949278462011-11-10T14:11:32.848-05:002011-11-10T14:11:32.848-05:00Re: Anonymous...
Thanks for your comment. I coul...Re: Anonymous... <br /><br />Thanks for your comment. I could have said that it is unfortunate that such vulnerable people are at the encampments. It is very sad. But these encampments are not a decent place for them. <br /><br />And you are entitled to your opinion, but as an old time media person, I've always thought it was better to identify myself. <br /><br />Nick.Nick Fillmorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01164453733837765836noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2732335530726828393.post-9598987930391016682011-11-10T13:50:29.917-05:002011-11-10T13:50:29.917-05:00Shame on you for not "getting it" and no...Shame on you for not "getting it" and not applauding the Occupiers for taking in the most vulnerable in society. Your post is no different than mainstream media garbage about the movement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2732335530726828393.post-43940522845779581502011-11-10T10:47:55.586-05:002011-11-10T10:47:55.586-05:00Supporting President Obama will NOT resolve the is...Supporting President Obama will NOT resolve the issues 'Occupy' has brought to the table. Obama has failed to follow through on most of his campaign promises and Wall Street is very well represented in his administration. It poorly regulated financial policy and the legalized theft of the public by the Federal Reserve and other private banks that is at the heart of this movement. Strip the Fed and the private banking cartels of their ability to create fiat currency out of thin air and restore the creation and control of the nation's wealth to the people and their government.Craig Tocknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2732335530726828393.post-29548521574125221222011-11-10T08:32:33.413-05:002011-11-10T08:32:33.413-05:00Including ALL people as WE THE PEOPLE is a messy a...Including ALL people as WE THE PEOPLE is a messy and inconvenient business. But it is totally necessary. No more should those homeless, mentally ill and addicted be forced into the shadows. No more should we hide our communal shame under bushes and bridges.... those are our people too.... the fact they are so in need of a safe place to eat and sleep are symptoms of a society gone wrong. They are our weakest link, they are are brothers, sisters, and neighbors.... and they shall be hidden no longer!!!<br />Every major religion in the world teaches us that caring for them is our duty....rosetta starhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02551219180434603695noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2732335530726828393.post-46028295153673992642011-11-09T23:00:36.803-05:002011-11-09T23:00:36.803-05:00Excellent analysis, Nick. Thanks for pulling it to...Excellent analysis, Nick. Thanks for pulling it together. (I hadn't heard about the firing of pro-CBC journalists though.That's,um, disturbing.)Nancy Whitenoreply@blogger.com